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NEW JERSEY DEVILS

Diskuze o jednotlivých týmech nejkvalitnější hokejové ligy na světě.

Takže devs 3:1 pens. Čudný zápas, najmä tie PP jedna za druhou a najmä pre nás neviem už to rozhodcovia preháňali moc. Počítam s tým, že zajtra to všetko vrátia tučniakom, ale hrali sme ich otrasne prvú tretinu potom sa to zlepšilo. Výborne hral Butler dúfam, že nebude zranený, Greene je v životnej forme asi. Larsson first assist no a na záver Marty :clap: on je neskutočný. Zajtra by som bral aj bod všetkými desiatimi, ale myslím, že tam bude horúco nevadí hlavne, že dneska dostali. No a ešte som zabudoval pogratulovať Matteauovi k jeho prvému gólu v NHL :)
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Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice
Brodeur: "That's all the work I do in the summer, quick feet and all that stuff. Did you see that dancing?"

:lol2: :wub: aj tak to bol offside, ale predsa. haha
Gratulace k porážce týmu proti kterému není fér hrát :oslava:
They came into the season as the most disrespected Stanley Cup finalist in modern NHL history.

Nobody, but nobody looked at the New Jersey Devils when the NHL and union finally worked out their differences and imagined they would be a serious Stanley Cup contender.

No matter that the Devils were the class of the Eastern Conference last season and battled the Los Angeles Kings hard before falling in the Cup final.

All that seemed to matter was that Zach Parise was gone, Martin Brodeur was old and how could a team with Bryce Salvador as captain scare anybody.

Well, scaring the rest of the league is what the Devils are doing. Again. Like always.

Never the sexy choice, the remarkable kingdom that Lou Lamoriello built is 8-1-3 out of the gate after sweeping the Pittsburgh Penguins on the weekend.

Chicago's Blackhawks have been better than anyone so far, but that was, if not expected, a possibility anticipated by many.

The Devils? Dismissed as a fluke Cup finalist a year ago. Yet while the 28th-place Kings flounder in the west with only three wins, Brodeur and the Devils just take care of business as always.

Even with Travis Zajac, he of the eight-year, $46 million contract extension, struggling along with only three points so far, New Jersey continues to be more than the sum of its parts. Missing Parise? Not yet, although Parise is off to a solid start in the Twin Cities with six goals.

How do the Devils do it? Super scout David Conte never stops finding players who are good to play with and hard to play against, while Lamoriello, regardless of who is coaching the team, insists on a team-first philosophy and never, ever wavers.

Only three teams have allowed fewer goals this season, with Brodeur ageless with a 2.29 goals-against average and solid .911 save percentage, and eminently affordable at $4.5 million per season (15th among NHL goalies. David Clarkson has nine goals and is slowly but surely inching his way into Canadian Olympic team consideration.

Sprinkle in a little Stefan Matteau here, a little Bobby Butler there, and you have the Devils, always underestimated, just the way they like it.

The New Jersey Devils lost Zach Parise for nothing and we were quick to write them off. Boy, do we look dumb.

"Part of it is the history of the organization," Devils head coach Peter DeBoer said minutes after the defending Eastern Conference champions finished a weekend sweep of the the Pittsburgh Penguins.

"They've done this a half-dozen times and the mandate is always the same: fill the holes as best you can and continue moving forward. It's not even an option to feel sorry for yourself.

"One thing about the Devils, there are no irreplaceable parts. We do it by committee."

Since 2000, they've lost Scott Gomez, Bobby Holik, Alexander Mogilny, Scott Niedermayer, Brian Rafalski and Parise to free agency (Don't forget Scott Stevens to retirement, too).

There were dry years, though, by New Jersey's standards. After winning their third Stanley Cup, the Devils won just two post-season series between 2004 and 2010 and missed the playoffs in 2011. DeBoer's first season was a rousing success, getting within two wins of another Cup conquest, but when Parise walked, many of us thought fun time was over.

A coach, however, is expected to believe otherwise.

"We had a lot of guys step up [last season] and I thought it was big enough of a sample size ... that it was not a fluke," DeBoer said. "We could do it again, build on it."

Unlike the Washington Capitals, Calgary Flames or Winnipeg Jets -- all making systemic changes without the benefit of a lengthy training camp or exhibition games -- DeBoer knew how his players in New Jersey were going to play.

"My biggest concern was that not too many of our guys played during the break," the coach said. "But I had a good feeling two or three games in.

"One advantage I really felt was our systems were in place. We played into late June and I didn't think it would take long to get back to a good level.

"With the schedule, we've had one practice in 16 days. Because of that foundation, we've been able to survive."

A little motivation didn't hurt, either.

"I think a lot of people felt we didn't belong [in the Stanley Cup final] or we were a fluke," DeBoer said. "These guys all read, they know where people picked us to finish.

"They're a proud group. They want to show last year wasn't an accident."

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1. While David Clarkson, tied for second in the NHL with nine goals, moved up to a top-six forward position, Parise's coveted spot alongside Ilya Kovalchuk and Travis Zajac went to 18-year-old Stefan Matteau, a second-generation NHLer. Matteau only plays at even strength, but hasn't looked out of place. "He's got a confidence to him a lot of junior age kids don't have," DeBoer said. "Many of them have that 'deer in the headlights' look; just overwhelmed. With him, there's no intimidation. Being around NHL players for a long time is a big help."

2. The extra half-season "vacation" may have extended the life of New Jersey's 79-year-old, two-headed goaltending monster (Martin Brodeur and Johan Hedberg). "I'll be the first one trying to convince those guys to keep playing," DeBoer laughed.

5. There's a lot of angst in Minnesota about the Wild's 5-5-1 start. After the free-agent bonanza, several opponents said Wild general manager Chuck Fletcher's biggest challenge would be managing expectations. While Parise and Ryan Suter are big upgrades, the roster has holes. The organization is stocked with talented youth, but in different stages of development. "They will not be a contender until their young players are ready," said one executive. "But that will be hard for ownership to hear."

6. A scout had an interesting take on the Wild: "Parise is an aggressive, attacking player. This is an organization without much of a history playing that way. He's playing very well. But they're going to have to get used to each other."
:thumbsup: jedna radosť čítať. Konečne niekto, konečne.
ponikarovsky je späť :jupi: za 4 a 7me kolo. ono som dnes dufal, ze rano najdem info o trejde za kridlo. vsetko tomu nasvedcovalo, prichod loktionova, jeho vcerajsie povolanie a 2 dni volna bez zapasu. sice som cakal uplne iny typ trejdu :D kazdopadne vzhladom k stavu zubrusa ( po zakroku sa uvidi ako dlho bude out, vraj niekde medzi 2-8 weeks) je to vyborna posila. ponik pozna system, hracov, prostredie, hraval oslabovky a za ten cas sa stal aj oblubencom fanusikov. takze parada.
Getzo5 píše: :thumbsup: jedna radosť čítať. Konečne niekto, konečne.
My to vsechno vime, to se prehlednout neda.
Presto mi nemuzes zabranit v tom, abych doufal, ze to treba konecne jednou nevyjde..
Poni zpet. Dobrej tah, skoda toho 4. kola, ale za to muzeme podekovat Jidasovi.

Jak ja bych si pral vyhrat pohar a Minni by nehrala ani PO.
megaton píše:Jak ja bych si pral vyhrat pohar a Minni by nehrala ani PO.
tak akože zachovi fandím furt, ale to isté si prajem aj ja, aby wild nešli do PO a aby to ľutoval :fnuk:
megaton píše:Poni zpet. Dobrej tah, skoda toho 4. kola, ale za to muzeme podekovat Jidasovi.

Jak ja bych si pral vyhrat pohar a Minni by nehrala ani PO.
Do PO pôjdete a Minny play-off minie, o to sa báť nemusíš. Len neviem ten :cup: či vyhráte. :)
tallinder už nehrá dosť dlho nato, aby sa konečne niečo pohlo v jeho prípade samozrejme smerom von kedže Larsson sa dovolím si napísať naplno adaptoval a už to je len lepšie a lepšie dokonca mu PDB sľúbil aj PP takže ide sa nato :bavme:
Tallinder me neptrapi. Spis Zajac. Dnes nastoupi s Ponikem, tak by se taky mohl probrat. Ocekavam od nej 1+1. Ta prihravka bude na gol prave Ponymu
Ako už iste viete, senators vypadol ich najlepší obranca síce ofenzívny, ale aj tak to musia nejako zaplatať. Napadá vás to isté čo mňa? :giggle:
Davvy píše:Ako už iste viete, senators vypadol ich najlepší obranca síce ofenzívny, ale aj tak to musia nejako zaplatať. Napadá vás to isté čo mňa? :giggle:
Michálek?
Davvy píše:Ako už iste viete, senators vypadol ich najlepší obranca síce ofenzívny, ale aj tak to musia nejako zaplatať. Napadá vás to isté čo mňa? :giggle:
Tak Tallinder je viac ako adekvátna náhrada za Karlssona, ale ked majú top hráčov zranených tak proste vám nemajú čo ponúknuť za neho, Turris by asi nestačil, museli by prihodiť ešte pár pickov.
Getzo5 píše:
Davvy píše:Ako už iste viete, senators vypadol ich najlepší obranca síce ofenzívny, ale aj tak to musia nejako zaplatať. Napadá vás to isté čo mňa? :giggle:
Michálek?
nie toho si nedajú mal som na mysli tvojho Silfverberga :D ale toho veľmi nechcem neviem
Zápas som žiaľ nevidel iba skrátený záznam, ale tak super. Po prvej katastrofálnej tretine 1:3. Potom sme sa naštartovali a ukázali svoju silu skvelý obrat. Megaton to s travisom uhádol úplne presne 1+1 :wink: kovy síce nedáva góly, ale jeho prínos pre našu hru je neuveriteľný to je úplne ale úplne iný kovy ako ten, ktorý k nám prišiel z ATL. Clarkie jedna báseň to neni o čom, tak isto patty už je v top 10 bodovania. Dobre Larsson IT okolo 20 minút a 3 plusky, Green dokonca 4 takže hýrim spokojnousťou. Pony naskočil do rozbehnutého vlaku vo veľkom štýle aj toto ti megaton vyšlo :D Len po jednom vylúčení na oboch stranách takže sa hraje disciplinovane. Čierny peter zostal Matteauovi, ale nejako mi to nevadí ja som bol aj tak zato, aby išiel späť k juniorom takže uvidíme, ale zato by tam mohol hrať radšej on alebo lokti ako barch alebo teddy sakra. Dnes isles takže nič nepodceniť a priniesť domov ďalšie 2 body. Každopádne zatiaľ nám to s phillou ide to je paráda, už dlhšie sa mi zdá, že to neni tá philla čo niekedy :box:
Byl to zajimavý zápas
Potom čo bol Tedenby poslaný do Albany a niekoľko zápasov nemohol nastúpiť pre bolesti, vo svojom treťom zápase takmer nešťastnou náhodou prišiel o život podobne ako Zedník. :slap: Korčuľa obrancu, ktorý stratil rovnováhu ho porezala tesne nad sánkou. Ťažko povedať, či sa to vôbec dá nazvať šťastím v nešťastí, keď na zošitie prudko krvácajúcej rany potreboval celkovo až 133 stehov a dnes podstúpi zákrok u plastického chirurga.

:panika: strašné. Chudák Teddy, na chudobného i budár spadne. :(

O tomto sa nežartuje, ale neodpustím si. Aspoň dostane prezývku Scarface :rev:
do prdele o tom som vôbec nevedel to je mi ľúto.....teddy drž sa :pray:
tak vcerejsi klepec zapomenut (snad), a JJ poslan dolu a nahoru povolan Loki, ktery "playing extremely well and deserves to get there and get an opportunity" no tak jsem na to zvedavej. Sens jsou ted extremne oslabeni a jako jedinou prekazku vyhry vidim Andersona, no a pak taky mozna Tallindera, ktery v sestave na ukor Fayna zustava :scare:
V tom, že tam zostáva problém nevidím, skôr v tom, že tam zostáva na úkor Faynea. :slap: Bez neho v zostave sme inkasovali už 14x a to nie je náhoda. My, čo jeho hru poznáme to dobre vieme. Pokiaľ ide o Lokiho a Jakea, je to dobrý krok. Obhajoval som ho na HF už včera, Lou asi číta. :ninja: :giggle: Uvidíme ako sa to vyvinie, ja to ale považujem za posilnenie ofenzívneho potenciálu a ten nám momentálne chýba.

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:hmm: toto sa na Flyera nepodobá. Žeby dostal PR výcvik? :jn: Teddy by mal byť v poriadku, skoro sa však na ľad nepozrie. Jeho #21 dostal práve Loki. Ten pred príchodom Gagneho nosil u Kings #12.
tallindera predať a k nemu by som pribalil asi aj josefsona síce by mi ho bolo trochu ľúto, ale ak by zato bol aj top6 winger tak budiš samozrejme ešte nejaký draft k tomu len za koho........keď sa vráti zubrus tak by som videl asi takto:

trade-zajac-kovy
eliáš-henrique-clarkie
carter-gionta-bernier
pony/butler-lokti-zubie
Je fakt, ze takovej Zidle, nebo Volchie by zaslouzili posadit vic nez Fayne. Ale Zidle hraje 1. QB na PP a Volchie je 1.D na PK, plus dodava fyzickou stranku (obcas). Co se trejdu tyce, obavam se, ze jineho hrace neprivedeme s Ponikem a zdravym Zubrusem nevidim prostor, ledaze by nekdo odesel, ale kdo? Motaka muzeme poslat k juniorum, Butlera na Farmu a Barche posadit. Osobne to vidim, ze Tallinder odejde za nejake kolo v draftu, nejvyse pak druhe.
devs 1:2sn sens

presne takýchto zápasov(výkonov) som sa pred sezónou po odchode zacha bál....pozeral som len prvé dve tretiny a OT, ale to bola katastrofa a na počudovanie aj v obrane kde sme mali viacej šťastia ako rozumu a útok ani nehovorím, keby sme za jednu tretinu hrali z 20 minút 16 v presilovke tak štvorica eliáš, zajac, clarkie a židla by mali minimálne 12 min. IT a kovy samozrejme 16.....larsson síce má prisľúbené PP od PDB, ale neviem kedy, nechápem čo sa mu bojí dať šancu........nájazdy to bolo o ničom všetci len strieľali dnes to nevyšlo aspoň jeden mohol vyskúšať rýchly blafák (zach :verysad: ) prehrali sme s ottawou za ktorú nehrali ich najväčšie opory a to hovorí za všetko...a ešte megaton 2. kolo za tallindera by som bral všetkými desiatimi :D
tak to byla marnost nad marnost. Prvni tretina snese meritka kvalitniho hokeje, ale co prislo pak? to si mysleli, ze sens nam to daj za pekny oci? Elias me sral, same fancy picovinky a neda gol do prazdny a pak nas jeste posle na OT do oslabeni? a jako vrchol jede najezdy. Na druhou stranu kdo jinej? Zajac se asi rozhodl, ze po podpisu smlouvy uz nemusi hrat, nebo nevim. Henrique se tam taky klouze jak na verejnym brusleni .Butler se alepon snazil, ale to se dalo cekat. Loki po jednom zapasu tezko soudit, ale ze bych byl nejak odvarenej se rict neda. Obrana jakz takz ale co je ku*va za par Salvador - Volcehnkov, to v 50% procentech koncilo icingem a neni se cemu divit. Talli vyrazne lepsi nez minule, Larsson nas nejlepsi bek. Zidle i Greene usli.

Na druhou stranu, porad jsme na delenem prvnim miste na vychode...
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