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Nemôžem to nájsť, ale zaujíma ma, ako dopadla trojičla Dougie Hamilton, Ryan Muphy a Duncan Siemens?
mt-svk píše:Nemôžem to nájsť, ale zaujíma ma, ako dopadla trojičla Dougie Hamilton, Ryan Muphy a Duncan Siemens?
Murphy bída, Hamilton nadpriemer, Siemens neviem. Ale tie výsledky sa dajú otočiť ako chceš a tak i brať na vedomie ako chceš. Huberdeau skončil sériu pred pár dňami, nie je žiaden silák a aj tak je rated vysoko a bude aj po Combine. Taylor Hall hral back-to-back Memorial Cup a testovanie dokonca odmietol, aj tak šiel 1st overall. Dôležitejšie sú rozhovory s hráčmi a prístup. Tam RNH celkom jasne zabodoval.
Getzo5 píše:
mt-svk píše:Nemôžem to nájsť, ale zaujíma ma, ako dopadla trojičla Dougie Hamilton, Ryan Muphy a Duncan Siemens?
Murphy bída, Hamilton nadpriemer, Siemens neviem. Ale tie výsledky sa dajú otočiť ako chceš a tak i brať na vedomie ako chceš. Huberdeau skončil sériu pred pár dňami, nie je žiaden silák a aj tak je rated vysoko a bude aj po Combine. Taylor Hall hral back-to-back Memorial Cup a testovanie dokonca odmietol, aj tak šiel 1st overall. Dôležitejšie sú rozhovory s hráčmi a prístup. Tam RNH celkom jasne zabodoval.
Nevieš ako dopadla táto trojička na pohovoroch?
mt-svk píše:Nevieš ako dopadla táto trojička na pohovoroch?
Ako kto hodnotil vedia len samotní GM. Každopádne boli spovedaní cca 16timi tímami. Murphy ešte absolvuje testy aj u nás. Siemens sa nám nejak stratil v dave, čo mňa osobne vôbec neprekvapuje. No a jediné čo vieme, že RNH sa ukázal v dobrom svetle aj na pohovoroch s EDM, ktorých už absolvoval niekoľko. Ten Larsson je ešte otvorený, ale tam to už naozaj vyzerá vcelku jasne. Inak zväčša tam boli kondiční tréneri, scouti a medical staff. Osobne tam bolo len zopár GM - McPhee, Tambellini a zopár ďalších.

Mimo to sa Tallon vyjadril, že pôjde (po predchádzajúcich rokoch logicky, to sme čakali) po forwardovi. Ale ktovie, každý GM je iný, niekto len hrá hru.
Getzo5 píše:
mt-svk píše:Nevieš ako dopadla táto trojička na pohovoroch?
Ako kto hodnotil vedia len samotní GM. Každopádne boli spovedaní cca 16timi tímami. Murphy ešte absolvuje testy aj u nás. Siemens sa nám nejak stratil v dave, čo mňa osobne vôbec neprekvapuje. No a jediné čo vieme, že RNH sa ukázal v dobrom svetle aj na pohovoroch s EDM, ktorých už absolvoval niekoľko. Ten Larsson je ešte otvorený, ale tam to už naozaj vyzerá vcelku jasne. Inak zväčša tam boli kondiční tréneri, scouti a medical staff. Osobne tam bolo len zopár GM - McPhee, Tambellini a zopár ďalších.

Mimo to sa Tallon vyjadril, že pôjde (po predchádzajúcich rokoch logicky, to sme čakali) po forwardovi. Ale ktovie, každý GM je iný, niekto len hrá hru.
Nevieš, či boli spovedaní Columbusom a ktorý z hráčov prichádza do úvahy /podľa špekulácií/? Bol tam Howson?
mt-svk píše:Nevieš, či boli spovedaní Columbusom a ktorý z hráčov prichádza do úvahy /podľa špekulácií/? Bol tam Howson?
Neviem, až tak som sa o to nezaujímal, prirodzene skôr z našej perspektívy, prekvapenia a pod. Ale #5-#15 a možno zopár ďalších určite. Štandardný postup.
TG píše: E-mailed with Parise today. He said to his knowledge there have been no contract talks.

I really thought that Lamoriello would sit down with his agents (W.Arnott and Meehan) while he was in Toronto for the combine and the team’s scouting meetings, but Parise said he would know if Lamorieloo reached out to them and he hasn’t heard a thing from his agents.

Also, talked to Andy Greene’s agent, Dan Plante, today. Nothing going on there either.

Plante said he talked to Lamoriello twice after the season, but there have been no contract talks.

Greene still wants to re-sign and is willing to do so without exploring UFA market. He really wants to stay.
tohle jsou veci ktere me vazne serou, zadnej trener, zadny kontakty s nasima nejlepsima RFA a UFA. Nechapu na co Lou ceka. jeho off-season me stoji vzdy vic nervu nez cela on-ice sezona.
neviem co kuje lou, ale daco to bude. caka caka..je dost mozne ze az do draftu (co sa mi zda neskoro). tam sa nieco zomelie..zrejme cakaa aka sanca a prilezitost sa naskytne a skoci po tom co bude najlepsie(trebars draftovat zo 4 pozicie :D ).. taktiez nie je znamy cap hit na buducu sezonu.takze podpisovanie hracov-koho a za kolko a ostatnych krokov sa moze odvijat aj od vysky stropu..
neviete niekto kedy by sa mala ohlasit jeho buducosezonna vyska?
TG píše:the official cap number won’t be announced until around draft weekend, which will be after the team has to file for arbitration.
O Zibanejadovi. TG ho očividne miluje a Conte chváli, no nie je to len propaganda? Od zimy fakt vyštartoval ako raketa, uchytil sa ako Huberdeau. Sakra, toľko možností :panika:
At the start of the 2010-11 season, Mika Zibanejad was viewed as an interesting prospect who fell below several other Swedish forwards on early prospect rankings. With just two weeks left before the draft the high-intensity Swedish center has vaulted up those very same lists.

"He could be picked top-five and that wouldn't surprise," says one experienced scout. "The developmental steps he took after the Christmas break were very impressive. He's gone from interesting to promising and he did so playing in the Elite league with and against grown men."

One of the analysts at Canal+ in Sweden is coaching veteran Leif Boork, who had this to say regarding Zibanejad: "When given the opportunity to play with the seniors he really took the chance. He's very creative and makes bold moves in situations where you're not expecting it at all. Zibanejad knows how to find the net and one of his biggest assets is his skill in one-on-one situations. It's rare to have a natural knack for that kind of detail in the game."

Boork doesn't see any apparent flaws to Zibanejad's game, noting however that he'll still need to physically mature to play against NHL opposition night in and night out. His skating could stand to improve as well. But the ceiling remains high. "With the right schooling he has a big potential to become a really great player," Boork says.

A scout who has followed Zibanejad for the last several years agrees. And his talents are not just restricted to his physical gifts.

"He reads the game and sees the ice well and he is physically tough but doesn't take any dumb penalties," says the scout. "He finds solutions all the time and can really surprise anyone out there on the ice, including his teammates, but in a positive way. He rarely loses the puck because of his creative moves and you will never be disappointed over his attitude and work ethic. He comes to play every night."

Another scout compares Zibanejad with Ottawa Senators captain and fellow Swede, Daniel Alfredsson. "Like Alfredsson, Zibanejad covers the puck well, plays with an edge but has a soft touch when stickhandling," he says. "When he got the chance to play in a regular role with Djurgarden in the Elite league he stepped up and impressed. He's tough when battling along the boards or putting pressure on the opponents anywhere else on the ice. Zibanejad has the ability to play aggressive, but in a controlled manner and when you look at his PIMs, he rarely racks up double digits over a full season."

The same scout raves about Zibanejad's attitude and ambition. "He has his head screwed on right with a healthy mix of a drive to become a better hockey player and humility. Overall he's positive and a kid that you just can't resist liking."

All the scouts and insiders I spoke with praised Zibanejad for his attitude and work ethic. Swedish hockey analyst Niklas Wikegard was no exception. "He really takes his hockey seriously," Wikegard says. "Zibanejad is one of those kids that loves hockey and really understands that he needs to put a lot of effort and work into it. He's known to be the first one to enter the gym at the arena and the last to leave it. He's focused and has a great drive to become better in all aspects."
Tak Roman Chrejčík na NHLPRO.cz si nás zobral pod lupu :hmm:

http://www.nhlpro.cz/clanek/19576-dablo ... jdou-zmeny" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
begbeee píše:Tak Roman Chrejčík na NHLPRO.cz si nás zobral pod lupu :hmm:

http://www.nhlpro.cz/clanek/19576-dablo ... jdou-zmeny" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Návrat Zharkova do rodnej zeme by nikoho neprekvapil. Ok, prestávam čítať. :rofl:

EDIT: Pokračujem. Welwood a návrat Ashama, buyout Rolstona lol, to nemá zmysel. A v diskusii ten :censored: hesselink by menil Volchenkova, ja to serem. :lol2: A tie jeho drísty ako - Magnan, Eckford, spústa talentu, "No ja myslim,ze Clarkson neni vubec preplaceny," :lol2: Ten chlapec by už mal prestať fetovať, však nám tam robí len hanbu.
TG o Landovi:
Left wing Gabriel Landeskog scored 36 goals in only 53 games in 2010-11 with the Kitchener Rangers, but doesn’t think of himself as the most offensively-skilled player. Perhaps, that’s why speaks so effusively about the importance of playing defense.

“I think today in the NHL, you’ve got to be able to play in both ends of the ice,” Landeskog said. “I’ve always taken pride in my defensive-zone (play) first and, being not the most skilled guy out there, I’ve got to rely on my work ethic and take care of my own end first and let my skill take over in the offensive zone.”

Talk like that has to be music to the ears of Devils general manager Lou Lamoreillo, who owns the No. 4 pick in the NHL Entry Draft and has always liked his forwards to be defensively responsible. For that reason and others, if Landeskog is still available at No. 4, it might be difficult for the Devils to pass him up, though they center and defense are probably their bigger needs.

Landeskog, who even missed some time this past season with an ankle injury, is projected to be solid future NHLer who can be a 30-goal scorer, but might not reach 40. It’s not just Landeskog’s on-ice skills that make him so coveted, though. (He interviewed with 16 teams at the NHL Scouting Combine last week in Toronto).

He’s a character player that many view as a future NHL captain. Landeskog’s leadership skills were so obvious that he was named the captain in Kitchener as a 17-year-old.

His maturity is obvious not just by looking at him, but also by talking to him. Although he is Swedish, he started to learn English well before he decided to come to North America to play major junior and speaks the language without a noticeable accent.

After meeting with Landeskog at the scouting combine, Devils Executive Vice President of Hockey Operations and Director of Scouting David Conte quipped, “I wanted to tell him my problems.” (lol)

In addition, the consensus is that Landeskog is the most NHL-ready of any of the prospects in this year’s draft.

“Every year you always say you’d like to see the guy go back to junior and there’s always those guys that make the step every year,” said Chris Edwards of NHL’s Central Scouting. “I think of the last few years, (Landeskog) is probably the guy that I’d say the most ready and can make the jump. He’s physically strong. He’s a real mature guy and he speaks English better than I do. That’s pretty amazing. Some guys come over here for years and it’s as tough adjustment. He’s made it real well.”

The Devils had Landeskog do some additional fitness testing in Toronto following the combine and he visited Ottawa on Tuesday for a workout.

Landeskog has been mentioned in the conversation about the No. 1 pick overall, which belongs to Edmonton. (Oilers GM Steve Tambellini said he is willing to listen to offers for the pick, but it would have to be something “exceptional” for him to move it.) Although it’s not likely Landeskog will be taken first, it’s a safe bet he’ll go in the top five.

“I’m trying to go into the draft with an open mindset and just enjoy the whole thing,” Landeskog said. “That’s pretty much the only tip I’ve gotten on the way from other players: just enjoy the whole thing. It’s been a busy year so far with the media and all of that kind of stuff, so I’m just going there with an open mindset and enjoying the whole thing with my family is going to be great.”

Landeskog is a left-handed shot who has played both left wing and right wing and even a little center. His versatility is an asset, but he probably does not have an NHL future playing in the middle.

“He is best on the wing and I don’t think it matters if it is right or left,” said TSN’s Craig Button, a former scout with Dallas and the former Calgary GM.

Landeskog got a small taste of the Swedish Elite League, playing in three games for Djurgarden (where he was teammates with Jacob Josefson) in 2008-09, but said, “I don’t think three games is enough to say that I was one of the Swedish Elite League players.”

Landeskog has no doubt that coming to play major junior in North America was the right thing to do for him. He was drafted third overall by Plymouth in the 2009 CHL import draft, but forced a trade to Kitchener where he had already forged a relationship with Rangers coach Steve Spott.

“I’m really thankful for the Kitchener organization,” Landeskog said. “They really helped me.”

Landeskog’s game is more suited to the North American style, which also makes you forget about his Swedish birth certificate. Like countryman Mika Zibanejad, Landeskog likes to play a physical style and with a sometimes mean edge.

He has skill, but doesn’t take that for granted.

“Working hard is what’s taken me here and I can’t forget that,” Landeskog said,
Posted by Tom Gulitti on 06/10 at 08:41 AM
Devils on the Rise, špeciálna edícia Hockey Night Live na MSG bude v pondelok večer. (vzdanie holdu úspechom organizácie)
Monday, June 13, 9:00pm watch “Devils on the Rise” on MSG+ "Devils on the Rise"
details the team's history on the way to becoming a perennial powerhouse with three Stanley Cup Championships, the New Jersey Devils’ rise to hockey prominence is one of the more remarkable tales in the NHL. “Devils on the Rise” starts in 1983-84 all the way to the current state of the team. It includes interviews with Chico Resch, Ken Daneyko, Brendan Shanahan and General Manager Lou Lamoriello.
Už sa uvoľnilo nejaké video, tak to sem posielam. Mal by som sa neskôr dostať aj ku kompletnému programu a to ako na Youtube, tak v celej dĺžke, tak potom ak by bol záujem, niekde to zavesím nech si to môžete stiahnuť. :wink2:



A článok o Kinkaid-ovi :good: : http://devilsarmyblog.com/2011/06/10/fu ... h-kinkaid/
http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/fire ... next_week/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

je to mozne,ze v pripade parise sa devils obratia na arbitraz.. podla mna by to pre nas bola katastrofa. ak by k tomu doslo. myslim ze nedojde. len sa ziskava cas na podpis zacha a vyriesenie si mnozstva ostatnych zalezitosti.. na druhej strane to ale dava tromf do ruk zachovych agentov pri vyjednavani..
Getzo5 píše:
begbeee píše:Tak Roman Chrejčík na NHLPRO.cz si nás zobral pod lupu :hmm:

http://www.nhlpro.cz/clanek/19576-dablo ... jdou-zmeny" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Návrat Zharkova do rodnej zeme by nikoho neprekvapil. Ok, prestávam čítať. :rofl:

EDIT: Pokračujem. Welwood a návrat Ashama, buyout Rolstona lol, to nemá zmysel. A v diskusii ten :censored: hesselink by menil Volchenkova, ja to serem. :lol2: A tie jeho drísty ako - Magnan, Eckford, spústa talentu, "No ja myslim,ze Clarkson neni vubec preplaceny," :lol2: Ten chlapec by už mal prestať fetovať, však nám tam robí len hanbu.
Tak toho Volčenkova by som brala všetkými desiatimi, určite by som si ho priala viac ako Cartera. Jeho príchodom by sa nám zlepšila obrana, čo by prospelo aj útoku. No a najmä, vďaka jeho defenzíve by s ním mohol hrať niektorý z našich mladých obrancov, A-train by dokázal zahasiť jeho chyby. Len tie jeho zranenia. :hmm:

Ćo takto 2. miesto v drafte a Russell za Volčenkova?
tak volchenkov k nam prisiel aby vystuzil dlhodobo obranu.. neviem preco by sme ho menili :D podpisal u nas dlhodoby kontrakt,sam si devils vybral tak kam by siel? okrem toho ma ntc sa mi mari, takze columbus mu urcite nehrozi :) podla mna ukazal svoje svetle stranky, a verim ze toto bola jeho najslabsia sezona u devils so vsetkych co u nas zahra.(myslim ze ju nemal dobru z pochopitelnych, a ospravedlnitelnych dovodov). ale buducu sezonu cakam od neho vykon. tento rok mal nizky ice time-18 minut a v zavere sezony to boli fakt nizke casy medzi 14-16 min na zapas. taky nas white ho tento rok strcil do vacku(do zranenia). ked sa ten podpise tak mame do buducna vystarane na istotu. s 2 dobrymi def specialistami, doplnenymi tallinderom, snad greeneom, plus 2 mladikmi nasa obrana nevyzera zle na najblizsie roky a ani draho(aj ked malo mobilne-verim greeneovi, aj tallinderovi-ten sa rozhybal,plus mladikom). s dobrym systemom to moze fungovat a nebude to tak tragicke ako furt citam..plus o rok pribudne merrill a uvidi sa co sa vykluje s urboma a gelinasa pocas sezony..

aj ked taky russell by sa mi veru ako doplnenie spomenutych mien velmi pacil :)
zoberte si zanho rolstona s gelinasom a 3th pickom radsej :D :D
Pozri, vy máte defenzívnych zadákov dosť, prećo nie obetovať Antona? Ak by sme mu sľúbili dobrý ice-time a mohol by hrať svoju hru /to jest blokovanie striel, ktoré Brodeur nemá rád/ prečo nie? Taktiež má v tíme kamaráta Ťjutina. :yes: No a vaša obrana je stabilizovaná, takže Russell by u vás podrástol a získali by ste obrancu, ktorého tak potrebujete. Nadôvažok môźe hrať tak na pravek, ako na ľavej strane. Podľa mňa by to bol výhodny´trejd pre obe strany.
Že Brodeur nemá rád bloky je pravda a aj napriek tomu im to spolu šlo viac než dobre, takže rozprávky starej matere necháme na inokedy. Diskusiu som, priznám sa (radšej) nečítal, ale Anton nikam nejde, takže baviť sa o čomkoľvek podobnom je zbytočné.

EDIT:
Druhé miesto, či druhé kolo? :eek2:
3th :scare:
Getzo5 píše:Že Brodeur nemá rád bloky je pravda a aj napriek tomu im to spolu šlo viac než dobre, takže rozprávky starej matere necháme na inokedy. Diskusiu som, priznám sa (radšej) nečítal, ale Anton nikam nejde, takže baviť sa o čomkoľvek podobnom je zbytočné.

EDIT:
Druhé miesto, či druhé kolo? :eek2:
3th :scare:
Ťakáme v druhom kole, takže to ;)

To, źe Anton nikam nejde viem, to je len zboźné prianie... ;)
podla mna ked sa radsej diskusia necita, tak by malo platit aj radsej nereagovanie :) myslim to vseobecne..

3th :scare: pritrafi sa (na mojho gauca sa to ale nechyta :D )
So všeobecným princípom súhlasím, akurát tu už fakt nemohlo byť nič nové na svete, dáme si repete. :roll: A bottom line zostáva. Volchenkov je podpísaný na 6 ročný kontrakt, odohral sezónu slušne a do budúcna sa s ním počíta, takže akékoľvek trade proposals sú zbytočné. (btw. tvoj príspevok som čítal, takže obraz som si o predošlom utvoril)
do draftu sa nic nove neudeje zrejme..my tu nic nevyspekulujeme. ale od toho je forum, na vykecavanie a diskutovanie,nie? niekto rad spekuluje a ma svoje ,,predstavy,, co by robil so svojim timom.. aj to rad rozobera.. deje sa to v temach phoenixu, columbusu a teraz i flyers.. kedze tu drviva vacsina uzivatelov hokeju rozumie viac nez dobre, tak ja osobne si to napriklad rad precitam..

podla mna je korektne si precitat prispevky od uzivatelov, ak na nich reagujem. ked sa mi to zda zbytocne, alebo ma to nezaujima, tak si pomyslim svoje a nereagujem.. to je ale len moj pohlad na vec :)
dunim píše:do draftu sa nic nove neudeje zrejme..my tu nic nevyspekulujeme. ale od toho je forum, na vykecavanie a diskutovanie,nie? niekto rad spekuluje a ma svoje ,,predstavy,, co by robil so svojim timom.. aj to rad rozobera.. deje sa to v temach phoenixu, columbusu a teraz i flyers.. kedze tu drviva vacsina uzivatelov hokeju rozumie viac nez dobre, tak ja osobne si to napriklad rad precitam..

podla mna je korektne si precitat prispevky od uzivatelov, ak na nich reagujem. ked sa mi to zda zbytocne, alebo ma to nezaujima, tak si pomyslim svoje a nereagujem.. to je ale len moj pohlad na vec :)
Bol to príspevok, nie reakcia citáciou. :wink2: A už sa okolo toho zbytočne netočme, nemá to žiadnu pointu.

No...ak to má reálny základ, samozrejme aj ja, ale vlhké sníčky tu predsa nemá zmysel prezentovať. To nechajme na prispievajúcich do diskusie verejných portálov, alebo deti. My sme tu fanúšikovia s odbornejším prístupom ("česť výnimkám") a ako takí už máme vedomosť i reálny odhad a informácie, ku ktorým sa iní dostanú len zriedka. Napr. proti špekuláciám ohľadom Cartera nemám nič. Prečo aj, nie je to len výstrel do tmy...

No a udiať by sa mohlo od 16.6. - 21.6. i keď je to skôr nepravdepodobné. V kútiku duše asi všetci dúfame, že Zach bude podpísaný čo najskôr, ale ja sa už ani len neodvažujem špekulovať za akých podmienok a kedy. Ako jeden človiečik trefne poznamenal, môže to byť podobná situácia v akej boli pred rokom Ducks s Ryanom a to trvalo týždne. Uvidíme, verme v skorý podpis za prijateľný cap hit, v žiadne arbitráže či smiešne trejdy. Bude to horúci mesiac, nielen vonkajšou teplotou. Finále SC, NHL Awards, Draft a 1.júl. Máme sa na čo tešiť.

A hoďme si aj špekuláciu - Weber <-> Parise, draftovaný Landeskog. Beriete? Ja áno.
good point s tym realnym zakladom.. ale ked chce niekto diskutovat o niecom, tak nech diskutuje.. ak sa mi to zda zbytocne, tak nereagujem a nevstupujem do toho, nech si diskutuju o com chcu predsa.. o tom ze toto je odborne forum pre ,,odbornikov,, a odborny pristup neviem.. aj ked vdaka ,,lepsim,, userom, temam a prispevkom sem chodim. to je fakt :thumbsup:

veru nakopilo sa toho riadne, uz to vidim ze miesto pri vode s pivom budem sediet tyzden pri nete s pivom.
so zachom to moze byt ako s ryanom ale aj lundgvistov pripad je podobny.. verim ze lou to zazracne so zachom poriesi do 1. jula.. vyska penazi by nemal byt az taky kamen urazu skor dlzka.aj ked u lua nikdy nevieme.
ked tak pozriem ako si to lou pripravil dopredu tak je fakt genius..obranu zacal prekopavat uz minule leto, zmluvy dalsich hracov ako bryce(stalo sa co sa stalo) ci colin su do buduceho roka a moze a nemusi ich podpisat podla vykonov mladikov, ci situacie na trhu podla potrieb. a za 2 sezony moze byt na nepoznanie. utok o rok na to tak isto, pol utoku ufa, mladici(jacob, teddy) predtym akurat v poslednych rokoch novacikovskych kontraktov. chlapik to ma vsetko pripravene, takze nepochybujem ze so zachom to spravi tak ze si fanusikovia budu moct povedat parada..inak by som bol velmi nemilo prekvapeny :cert:

k spekulacii: uff webbera by som bral, ale nie za zacha.. ono to logicky aj vyplyvava, aj rozum by povedal ze na lavo mame na dva roky eliasa popri iljovi a o brancu treba, takze zacha by sme ozeleli..ale ako fanusik v ziadnom pripade.. mam rad original devils hracov, mat svoj tím zo svojich-to je jedna z veci preco mam devils rad.. ale webber aj mne napadol.. (a ked som pisal ze sa na drafte nieco zomele tak webber(alebo suter, kvoli ostatiu webbera) bol prvy dovod na co som myslel). osobne by som za zacha nebol ochotny urobit tuto vymenu, aj ked pragmaticky by bola logicka. skor ak by sa dalo by som do toho zamontoval nas 1.draft a talenty ako palmieri+ obranca(a napchal tam este mladeho golmana z nashville a financne to vykryl vymenou tallindera..ale to je moja utopia :D
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